Joe Wilson rep. from South Carolina
They need to have the EPA go down to South Carolina and test the water because there sure growing a bunch of idiots there. First it was their governor the philanderer Mark Sanford Mr. Morality who thinks everybody who who has an affair should resign except him. This is even after 60 of his fellow republican state legislators have asked him to resign. Then there's the liutenant governor another moral holier than thou republican who turns out to be a closet queen.
Now we have Joe Wilson who during Obama's speech last night points his finger and calls Obama a liar when Obama mentioned a lie from the right, that there will be no federal health care in the plan for illegal aliens. I only recall a few geers during a Bush speech and a standing ovation when he said he couldn't get his hands on social security but no body interupted his speech.
Now for the kicker. In trying to find a photo of this clown I find his wiki page is down for repairs and his own web page won't load and is down. Ya think maybe people are a bit pissed at him?
I though this was all over with the birthers and the deathers and all that but I guess not. So my advice is to forget any bipartisanship. These guys don't bother to read their own bills and amendments and are hell bent on stopping any progress.
I guess this follows that since today is 9/9/9 which upside down is 6/6/6. Now is the moon full?
Update My fellow blogging friend informs me that what Wilson did violated house rules. As he put it this is Congress not the Parliment. It's called decorum folks.
Last update: Here's the actual section from the bill itself. "SEC. 246. NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS.
Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States."
So who's the liar now?
35 comments:
People whose philosophy, party and political careers are built on lies and lying don't take kindly to having their lies exposed and debunked. So of course Wilson got emotional and popped off, showing he lacks self-discipline and any respect at all for the president or even for the office of the president.
Keep in mind, Wilson's from South Carolina, where the politicians are nearly all fine, upstanding Republicans and everything runs like a well-tuned machine.
I think he's been 'hiking the ole Appalacian Trail'.
You are absolutely right S.W. Anderson. Obama, whose philosophy and political career is based on lies and deception should have seen something like this coming... I'm just glad someone finally had the kahonas to say it out loud and in front of God and Country. You can respect the office without respecting the man and I’m sorry Joe Wilson felt it necessary to apologize, I don’t believe he had anything to apologize for.
It seems no one has taught you or him any manners Liz. And had you done your homework you would know there is specific language in the bill being worked on and not finished to prevent illegals to get unauthorized health care. So yes he should have apologized. Wilson has now admitted he was wrong and apologized.
Let me define hypocrisy for you Liz.
1 : a feigning to be what one is not or to believe what one does not; especially : the false assumption of an appearance of virtue or religion
2 : an act or instance of hypocrisy
Who the hell is Liz and what has she been smoking? She seems to have confused her political parties.
Manners Demeur? I wasn't aware I was being rude, I was only being honest and Joe Wilson was just calling a spade a spade, (I apologize if this offends, there was no pun intended.)
I will believe Obama doesn't plan on health care for illegals when I see it in writing, but that will hardly be enough to make his Obamacare plan acceptable. Oh, and thanks for the definitions… my, but you’re smart!
Blog Fodder, I'm just someone who disagrees with S.W. Anderson and Demeur, besides, according to Hillary "dissent is the highest form of patriotism". Of course that would be about the only thing she and I agree on.
Actually Fodder, you would know me better as one of those "far right-wing radical, stupid, retarded, astrotrurfing, assholes"... gee, you liberal progressives are articulate!
I've had fun and would very much like to stay and play some more with you folks but I'm leaving for Washington D.C. to do some more astroturfing so I really must fly, literally!
Wilson is probably a hero in South Carolina, Sanford and Graham will be out stumping for him next year. What a threesome. Although Sanford will probably have his endorsement of Wilson beamed live from Buenos Aires, and Graham's beamed live from a shed in John McCain's backyard.
There sure seems to be something about South Carolina. Don't forget Sen. Jim DeMint, who kept bragging that if they can derail health care reform, they can "break" Obama.
And there was that inbred South Carolina sheriff a few months ago who was determined to bust Michael Phelps for pot, based on those YouTube videos of him smoking a bong. Priorities.
I don't know what's in their drinking water, but I hope it doesn't spread to the rest of our water supply.
It seems to me that if Obama doesn't like being called a liar in any setting that maybe he should speak the truth as the rest of the world understands it to be. As this is Congress, what's with all the hugs and kiss's between them? Nobody is noticeing this? I believe a little less 'Rainbow Stew' would be in order on capitol hill.
Let me get this straight, Fred. Are you saying that in order to not being called a liar, Obama should take up residence in the insane and delusional world of the Reich-wing???????
And by the way, "...he should speak the truth as the rest of the world understands it to be.", is, in itself, a delusional statement. Where were you when we needed you most, like everytime George W Bush opened his mouth. :)
AWW Brother Tim,,,, Did I touch a nerve? Amazing how easy the buttons are found.....
Naw, Fred, you didn't touch any nerve here. I do find it curious though, that you commented about that, yet failed to address either question I put forth to you. :)
No Brother Tim, I did not make any mention that the Messiah should move or go anywhere, YOU did. I was right here listening and observing while Bush was speaking as well as the rest of them on both sides of the house. What I do find interesting is that rather then explain how Obama is right you prefer to slam Bush. Could it be that is all there is in the arsenal?
I don't know if Obama is a liar or not, but he is a politician and delusional.
The last two comments on my blog today are a hoot.
Hey, Liz hasn't even got a blog, she is just here to irritate you folks. I'll bet she listens to Rush.
BBC, you're so clever!
Liz, you are an idiot. :-)
BBC, you disappoint! I thought only serious liberals reverted to name calling so quickly! (Brother Tim is quite touchy too isn't he?) But alas, I've been called far worse, as I pointed out to Fodder earlier...
Must go now and devise a way to get a sign in Obama face,(while he feigns genuine remorse on the 8 year anniversary of 9/11 on the White House lawn), in hopes that he will finally get the message!
Existing law prohibits illegal aliens from signing up for health programs/benefits. People not hard up for a wedge issue — something to use for scaremongering — realize that to change the law, any health care reform bill would have to include language specifically authorizing eligibility for illegal aliens. That's something none of the four bills that have been making their way through the lawmaking process have done.
And, at least one of the bills includes specific language prohibiting illegal aliens from participating and receiving benefits.
Liz, Fred, can you handle the truth? Or would you now like to persist with politically self-serving nonsense, which would make you . . . guess what. (Hint: Like Joe Wilson said.)
Credit given where credit is due. S.W. Anderson is the one to finally make a valid point, and I will research it. I believe Joe Wilson was out of line with the outburst for reasons of respect of Robert's Rules if no other reason. One thing I thought interesting was that no one until SW Anderson actually had the sense to realize they were being goaded for a reaction rather than a response, and the desired result was achieved in short order. My point is that the reactions and astute understanding are being mirrored in our capitol and we are having to pay the price. Party affilliation has no bearing there. I want to thank all involved for participating in our little social experiment and to remind all that opinions are like assholes, everybody has one and most of them stink. But that doesn't mean that they don't have merit.
And yes SW Anderson, I can handle the truth.
Liz - I believe it will take more than a sign, but, good luck.
1. There should be some respect for the Presidency as an office, if not the person, and yelling liar is an outlier.
2. Wilson prevaricates when he apologizes in the first moment and trying to milk his notoriety in the next.
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